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different kind of cold no no it was explained to people is the first time I'd ever stepped outside and inhaling through my nose felt the inside of my nose crystallize yes and I said I am in a place that is freezing the inside of me ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=84.81,98.61"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_1:\u003c/strong\u003e at I that was just wow but yeah but the same thing I mean the snow had fallen in the most perfect way that the campus is beautiful and I just I fell in love immediately said this is where I have to go and then they are running things and that I'm playing football but all my 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eighteen year old kid my mom's gonna kill me it was a new code it's so expensive so I'm walking out now with no coat and we passed some other building where a young man and a young woman had I guess made friends at the party and decided to continue their friendship somewhere else in the lounge of some other a residence hall and I just want to make that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=274.03,299.86"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_0:\u003c/strong\u003e it may and I spotted my coat draped over the couch in which they were sitting continuing their friendship I said my god so that I feel like somehow that was an omen that this is the place to be things just work out here but anyway I I I have had the experience of that's right the campus is going to be and then that summer after I committed gotten in and so forth a letter came home saying you notifying students of this this thing though but rather read life decision I think I speak for most people in my class but you know what the heck that really meant okay that that's gonna happen fine yes but when we arrived we essentially had three classes ahead of us many of which were angry at the school for destroying the social life and taking away all of our funding and we had all these people said the school was so much better before this happened and now the school sucks so you know we had a better part of at least three years of the archive the bet okay I guess that they say it sucks I guess the school sucks yes it was this weird time of transition clearly and it's come up with a bunch of conversations I've had it is no question was the right decision is no questions was much better for it but it was an interesting time in but 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that all that all ended up coming full circle Sir what for them is that is that now the tie the title of this episode find your jacket ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=399.26,408.84"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_0:\u003c/strong\u003e all right ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=409.79,410.05"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_0:\u003c/strong\u003e  well 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where you are now and what brought you from Hamilton to worry or sure sure I thought the career path released a dream was to do something in media I have thrown myself pretty hard into student media sports editor of the spectator sports director WACL I had multiple shows at W. H. C. L. love that to know and I would guest on anyone else's show I just wanted to be in that studio behind the board on the Mike as much as I could so much so that I got a job my senior year at W. O. U. R. in Utica and I was working overnight weekends midnight to six AM on the weekends on the air so I said yeah I'm a professional I'm getting paid to do this on a real radio stations I thought I was well on my way and as I as I always say if I had wanted to continue to make six dollars an hour in live in Utica that I could just continue to do that I think I had grander aspirations then and no offense to you to gets a lovely city and one of the one of the key things that keeps going up on the shows how much people don't appreciate the surrounding areas when that when the students there but making six dollars an hour it was 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so thank you but I need to go they have a living wage and then I ended up again another meet how will the connection all about the house and connections a fellow classmate of mine Eric Isaac class of ninety nine I had just started as an assistant media planner at an ad agency called those out and I was lamenting to him the fact that was you know we're now it's October I think after graduation I still have a job and my mom was ready to kick me out so I didn't get a job and he said well we're hiring assistant media planners here and I said let's sounds interesting what's an assistant media planners he said I'm not really sure yet but we get we get free magazine so it's pretty cool so landed in an interview for a job at this ad agency for assisted me to plant I looked at it I said media I work in media I think I could turn that around and ended up getting a job working with ESPN as a client and the job which I did sensually working in some capacity throughout the rest of my career in 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digital media properties that that we own and all the talent from there is based on the west coast office and I you know I was getting a salad at the at the cafeteria next to a bunch of people who I see on TV every day including you know Willie McGinest who is a former player you Connelly bumping in the former players and it's just you have to play it you know you can't get all my god get a selfie there it's it's really comfortable he was confronted on but the twelve year old side music that's all my god that's that's ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=830.45,855.57"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_0:\u003c/strong\u003e right it's it's it's pretty fun 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college but as as I said several times I realized pretty quickly that I don't think there would be much of an audience are interesting hearing me play Billy Joel for an hour ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643#t=947.44,962.93"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/1902/collection_resources/70009/file/154643/transcript/35944/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eS_1:\u003c/strong\u003e so I figured I should figure out something else that would be more interesting and I just thinking about what I would do for show just had me reflecting on my time at at Hamilton and one of the things I was thinking about particularly the conversation we had around my time there was it felt like a fairly unique time and the original idea was let me explore that but then I didn't really want to just to re litigate the rest life decision over and over again every week but have you thinking about what was my experience the same as others through other generations was a different how is it different what was going on and then of course right at present started that was you know the summer when pandemic was raging the social justice movement was really heating up and there's just so much going on and that was obviously impacting all of us and I was starting to it's just sort of explore how it was impacting the campus as well so all of that coupled with this idea of because they're looking at who had gone to the school and think about who I could actually talk to I just I always knew it but police have seen the list of there are really just a lot of interesting people that went to the school such that maybe that would be that maybe that's the idea is that the hook is Hamilton but then everyone goes off and does these different things so I like to explore I think similar to what you're doing with that I 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that boat together I think it's very common that challenge exists with the blind spot if you will exists and while the individual issues are challenges may not be completely tentacle or the same what what everyone's dealing with something right I mean I I came to the campus with a mom who just finished her first bout of breast cancer they change a lot of perspective for me and I was you know had worry about and I'm I'm gonna be OK particular because my dad passed away when I was sixteen so she my mom raised you know raise me and it's a critical times by soft also met with some financial troubles because of all that so I was spent I would spend at the start of every semester every school year in the business office pleading my case and I kicked me out and promising the check was in the mail walking on a campus that felt quite affluent right now I think everyone here is rich I'm not rich so I was embarrassed by that right now try to keep that a secret why'd you miss the first class I had a thing idea is that since going on them but meanwhile is it no I promised my mom says the checks in the mail you know tonight it was dealing with that but if someone else had some other issues right up I had to talk to actually marry men in the class head of me who talks about our talk to Kenny Gilmore you know both told stories about coming out on campus and and what that was like one in the nineties one you know fairly recently and what a challenge that was in the personal struggles there how many people come to the campus not willing to talk about that and not realizing that there are many others don't I mean it's just is it runs the gamut it's been real that this that's probably been the biggest eye opening thing about about this process thank you for sharing and I am sure yes so if a current student or a prospective student is listening to this 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people throw out in hopes that that it'll get picked up or have some meaningful conversations I mean I remember especially my first year when it was really everyone is in a get to know you sort of face particular on orientation when we have ice breaker games and all that there are some people who shared some personal things I shared stories about my dad passed away in the struggles I had there but how to guard up on a lot of other things right but in those times I think you know the classic thing of listening isn't just waiting for the for the other person finishes talking you know I think oftentimes those sorts of things are forgetting the share mode everyone is 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does listen as do some of some of my friends I've I've found a few things that that don't but the response I've got from people I know in from any people I don't know and I think what's been surprising is I didn't anticipate it being a source of reconnection to the school for people I have a lot of people who will reach out and tell me that it has them reflecting on their own time and you know and that makes them connect with people they had tracked with in a while and that's felt good I mean at the beginning of the at anytime I hear from anybody but they said they listen and then we don't have any sort of complimented it really is rewarding and makes things a little bit for songs I think that's in the probably the most surprising just reaction to it I think what I hope people get out of it is you know the intent going into it as I start to think about this is the ideas or the can't come into that shape and as I started to have some of these conversations as I I hope that it serves as insight inspiration for current students and and prospective students on what it's like what the school what people can get out of the school and a particular for current students thinking about what they want to be when they grow up what different paths you can take once you graduate from from school because there are very many different ones and it's been interesting to me that there are those that I thought I was going to do X. 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