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Well legend improves it of course. And many literary figures\nI've heard have been up on the Hill for many years. Do you have any\ninterest.ing stories about some of the people who used to come up here?\n\nA: We had Masefield, fresh from Gallipoli, very tragic face. he stayed with us\na few nights . Whoever came to give the Meyer's lectures as they were called,\nstayed with us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: And the... then the people who came here come through the college?\n\nA: Yes.\n\nQ: But some of them were friends of yours, were they not?\n\nA: Yes, they were already, yes. Many of them became so.\n\nQ: Who was... who else was there besides Masefield?\n\nA: Frost, Delemar.\n\nQ: What was Frost like?\n\nA: Frost is an adorable man. lovely old gentleman, not old then. He and my\nhusband took a great liking for each other. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=60.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They used to go out and use Percy's\ntelescope together. Percy bought a telescope soon after he came here. He\nthought the boys ought to have something to look at the sky with and he said,\n\"Why not I to get it?\", and Frost had written a little poem containing that.\n\nQ: I see. I know this house has been a harbor very often for students who ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=90.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get a\nlittle oppressed by the dormitory life.\n\nA: We happen to have the fire at Sigma Phi one of those warly years and 2 or 3,\nI think it was 4 boys had to jump from the second story and were pretty well\nsmashed nervously by that fact. They'd been near enough to being ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=120.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"burned to all\nof them get rather depressed end I invited them over here. We gad them here in\nthis house, the Orrs, Billy Bristol, and the Roots and Van Pope.\n\nQ: And I've been told that ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=150.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Howard Nemerof who now I believe teaches at\nBennington was here at one time. Could you tell us that story?\n\nA: Yes, Howard. I admired him very much, we both did, Percy and I, and got to\nknow him quite well, a very gifted fellow for taking the upper students. He\ndidn't t ouch the ones that he considered dull but there was no ,,se for them\nbut we needed the other thing, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=180.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one person at least, that would inspire the boys\nwith literary and artistic ambitions and he did. He used to come and see us\nquite often and I once offered him the use of a room upstairs, one of the guest\nrooms, to study in and as a study, to use as a study. He brought hi s books and\nkept them there. He used to come here to study ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=210.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because he and his wife had only\n2 rooms and when one was entertaining or cooking the other had to live as best\nhe could in the other half of the little apartment. That was . in the faculty\nhouse then, what was called the faculty house, Huntington House it is called\nnow. He lived down there in those two little rooms and at the time I knew\nbecause I went to Tom Rudd ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=240.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who was then the Acting President about it. I know\nthat if they'd given him one more room in any way if they'd been able to , he\nwould have stayed. But Tom told me they couldn't possibly, they had no space.\nHow could they do it? He showed me the plans for where the faculty were living.\nThat .was during Mr. Rudd's, Mr. Thomas Rudd's,\" temporary presidency. So they\nlet him go ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=270.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but before that time he used 'to come up, I think perhaps it was\ndaily, and work here. Whenever he'd want to write he came here and he was\nwriting a good deal at that time.\n\nQ: Speaking of the Presidents, undoubtedly the most interesting to us if only\nthrough legend is Stryker and of course you knew Stryker.\n\nA: Dr. Stryker we did know very intimately. My husband was devoted to him. As it\nhappened you either loved Dr. Stryker or you hated him, you know he was a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=300.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Teddy\nRoosevelt sort of man, very positive and very dictatorial, and dominating. But\nmy husband loved him and he loved Percy. In fact when they first met when Percy\ncame here to get his job, he heard there was a vacancy here, we had no job for\nthe following year we were engaged but we had no prospect of marrying at once\nand Percy came here to see if he could get ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=330.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the job in any way by connecting up\nwith the President. The President took an instantaneous fancy to him and engaged\nhim without looking up any of his references. It's always amused us because\n'twas the way the President got all of his faculty. He liked them personally or\nelse he didn't end he engaged them on that basis. When Percy came to interview\nfor the first time ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=360.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dr. Stryker took a fancy to him. They sat down for an\ninterview and Dr. Stryker, this is the story that amuses us, I don't know\nwhether it would be worth your while.\n\nQ: Oh I'm sure it would.\n\nA: But he, Dr. Stryker said,\"Well what are your religious beliefs? I'll have to\nlook into that.\" although he hadn't looked up any of his academic record. And\nPercy said after some hesitation,\"Well, I think Wordsworth represents as clearly\nas I can or as anybody does ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=390.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what I feel about things or about religion.\" Dr.\nStryker looked a little puzzled for a minute and then said, \"Well that's\nsatisfactory to me.\" He engaged him on that basis.\n\nQ: Oh, he must have been a magnificent man?\n\nA: Yes he was a character.\n\nQ: When you first came I know there was no music department and of course Mr.\nSaunders was very interested in music, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=420.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"especially chamber music.\n\nA: Yes he did, it was I think it took the place of religion to him really, he\ncared more about it than anything else I think. He started a quartet among the\nboys and it was of course pretty feeble because you can't get four boys to play\ndecently together right away. So we had rather dim performances. Mrs. Brown, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=450.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the\nwife of one of the faculty, took part. I think she was the cellist. We had two\nother boys who were not very strong. We had quite feeble little quartets, until\nit occurred to us to pay for the coming of a cellist once a week; 'twas that\nthat we needed most, from Syracuse, pay his expenses and put him up while he was\nhere. My husband found a ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=480.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little German that he liked who could do that and who\nused to come every week that way and we brought him and we had quartets in this\nhouse. At that time it didn't have that room, just here in this small part of\nthe house.\n\nQ: And then later on· that .wing was added?\n\nA: And later on we added the wing when Mr. Root got us that money. And we added\nthe wing chiefly for the music, that's why its so high and why you go down steps\nto it ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=510.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so we could have a proper height and it turned out to be very good\nacoustically. I think that's a thing that we couldn't measure beforehand as they\ndo now but we had luck with it. It's a very good room to play or sing in,\neverybody likes it and I have seated as many as 90 boys in that room and up here\nlistening to music. For a long time it was the only music that we had ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=540.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then Mr.\nChute got, no, it wasn't Mr. Chute then, was recommended by Mr. Serrett, he was\na sort of Dean of Music and he travelled from college to college starting things\nand he had an endowment from Carnegie or somebody to pay for the first year or\nso to start music and then if the college ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=570.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"took it over after a year or so he'd\nleave it and 'would have the start and he'd go on to another college. He did\nthat through all these eastern colleges I think, through a good many of them and\nHamilton was among them.\n\nQ: Did Mr. Saunders have anything to do with the founding of the chamber music\nsociety in Utica?\n\nA: Yes, he was one of the founders. There were 4 or 5 who got together; Edward\nRoot was one of them. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=600.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was musical and I think by that time Mr. Chute was\nhere, by the time that chamber music was founded in Utica. I think so; I\ncouldn't be sure of that.\n\nQ: In your cultural role in the college you have had some occasion certainly\nrecently to play some role on the Charlatans. I know you used to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=630.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"help them\nsomewhat didn't you?\n\nA: I used to be one of the readers of the plays with two other faculty and the\nother two were much more import ant than Mr. Fancher who was really interested\nin the Charlatans and I think sort of headed it while he was here and Mr. Robert\nRudd who of course has always been interested in acting and those two did most\nof the reading of the plays. I used to sit in too ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=660.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I\n\nwas considered on the committee but I didn't do much voting. they did it and\nthey used to choose on the whole rather good plays so the boys got started on a\ngood level by the time they took it over it was on an established, fairly\nliterary level.\n\nQ: Probably one of the most pleasant of the annual events at the college is ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=690.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your\nChristmas party which...\n\nA: The Chutes, the Truncs would know exactly when that was founded, they always\ntell me every year, about 14 years ago.\n\nQ: Well, how did that begin?\n\nA: It began with my, I think with my reading ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=720.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a book on entertainment by that\nwoman who's done a good deal of decorating. Dorothy Draper has writing a book on\nentertainment. One of her principles was that there ought to be in every\nentertainment something beautiful for people· to remember and carry away and\none of the examples she gave was singing to?ether and I think that put it into\nmy head. We tried it and had success with it at once ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=750.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because there was no place\nfor the students to gather and sing.\n\nQ: It was originally the faculty was it not? Or was it the students?\n\nA: I suppose it was limited to faculty at first although I shouldn't think so\nbecause we were so small then that we could have in this, even this small part\nof the house, we could have some of the faculty and some of the students and I\nfancy we had the musical students from the ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=780.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"beginning but there was no Choir\nthen. Mr. Fancher started the Choir I think.\n\nQ: Mr. Fancher must have been quite a man. He started a good many· things.\n\nA: Yes he did. He was very influential here in the arts. He was the one of the\nfaculty who cared most about them I think. A very peculiar man but very\ncharacteristically interested in the arts.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=810.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: In what way was he peculiar?\n\nA: Well not altogether likable. I was going to say altogether trustworthy but of\ncourse in a way he was trustworthy, you could trust his word but very odd and\nundependable, rather violent in his likes and dislikes and people felt that way\ntowards him. Some people liked him very much and some not at all but he married\nwhile he was up here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=840.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He met a cousin, I think she was related to the Roots. He\nmet her through Mr. Root and she helped him very much in his entertaining.\nEverybody liked her, she was extremely popular and she entertained a good deal;\nthey had money, Louise had money so the Fanchers were able to entertain all they\nwanted to which most of us couldn't do of course.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=870.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: There's a story, I don't know whether it's more history or legend, about the\ntime when transportation was not very easy when vou were coming up the hill with\na sled, do you remember the story?\n\nA: Yes but it wasn't a sled it was a sleigh, a little sleigh that we used to\nrent from Kechs up here who lived on the Kech House which is now the Cameron\nhouse and we rented their little sleigh and horse whenever we wanted. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=900.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It\nhappened then whatever did happen. I'm afraid I don't know what did happen\nbecause the legend got so fixed in college and it was so amusing that everybody\ntold it of us. We were supposed to be absent minded and half the time have our\nminds on other things than our college work and that was a very good\nillustration of it so the story got very much told. That we spilled Silvia out\nof the sleigh as we were coming hame ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=930.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and didn't notice it till we got home,\nthat's the story stands.\n\nQ: At the bottom of the hill she was supposedly...\n\nA: Yes , at the bottom of the hill.\n\nQ: Spilled out of the sleigh?\n\nA: Yes.\n\nQ: I'm sure that in the past years the behavior of the students has changed in\nsome way. Can you think of what the differences are between now and what it was?\nIn the behavior, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=960.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the general behavior, their attitude?\n\nA: I don't think I can generalize on that. The students had very violent hazing\nin those days, much more than would be dreamed of now I don't think in any\ncollege. Hazing was the fashion all over the colleges and very violent things\nwere done. Boys sometimes died of them.\n\nQ: Well then students then perhaps at that time were more violent in general?\n\nA: Yes I think they were and rather more lawless.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=990.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: You mean they would be... they're meek now towards the administration and the\nfaculty? Are they meeker than they used to be?\n\nA: I suppose they are more docile. I think they care more. Yes I think that\nwould be true.\n\nQ: Do you think that's a good thing?\n\nA: They were a rougher group.\n\nQ: Do you think that's a good change or a bad one?\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1020.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A: Well, it depends on whether you are sympathetic with the individual students.\nI confess I have always been but there are various ones, I liked the rebels.\n\nQ: There's quite an interesting story about how you got your Ph.D. Could you\ntell us about it?\n\nA: Well that has nothing to do with Hamilton but it is a sort of amusing series\nof events. 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So they picked me out and offered it to me and it\nwas such a good opportunity that I wanted very much to take it and I had to\nprepare that summer, if I took it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1080.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for such lectures as I was allowed to Rive. I\ndon't know which order in which to tell this to you. I had already filled all\nthe requirements for a Ph.D . at Bryn Mawr except the dissertation, just as many\nof our young men have in their colleges filled all the requirements but the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1110.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dissertation. I had that still to do or rather I think with me it was the oral\nexamination, I think I had done the dissertation, that doesn't matter anyway, I\nhadn't quite filled the requirements. I had expected to fill them that summer\nand ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1140.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"get my Ph.D. before I started to teach in the autumn. I had always wanted to\nteach. When this offer came from Cornell I saw I'd have to put the summer or\nsome thing else so I got a sort of special dispensation that year from Bryn Mawr\nto put it off a year, to put off the oral examination and be allowed. 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I remember standing\nup on the platform rather dressed up you know to be, to get the award, the\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1200.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"degree so that to all intents and purposes and to the public eye. I did have the\ndegree but not technically qualified. The next three years I taught at Cornell\nand after that I married. I met Mr. Saunders down in Cornell and married him and\nhad to resign of course and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1230.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had nothing when I came here in the way of an\nacademic thing. When we came up here to Hamilton then he got his engagement on\nthat funny basis and we both grew very fond of him. Then I had, after I'd been\nhere some years a chance to teach a freshman year course at Bryn Mawr, they\noffered it to me and I did take it for a year and commute ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1260.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"twice a week down to\nBryn Mawr and back. Spending, of course, most of my time here, five days a week\nhere and two days down there. I asked if they wanted the degree by that time\nthey didn't make anything of it because they all knew me personally down there,\nand they knew exactly the facts that I technically had it so I didn't get it\nthen and once later I wrote to ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1290.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Miss Thomas and asked if they'd changed the\nrequirements. At that time they required the publication of your dissertation\nbefore you got your degree. It had to be actually printed and that would have\ncost a thousand dollars or so then, of course it would cost a great deal more\nthan that now to print a dissertation but at any rate I didn't want to afford it\nunless I had to and nobody seemed to require it as I moved from place to place.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1320.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"By that time I was a little bit known as a good teacher and my place in Cornell\nhad never been questioned and when I wrote to Miss Thomas who. was then\nPresident after perhaps ten years and said I would like to fill the requirements\nif I could, were they doing anything that wouldn't cost as much then because at\nno time in those days did we see $1,000 ahead and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1350.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she said, so, they still, Bryn\nMawr had its own requirements that you'd have to get the thing printed.\" So that\nwas refused and then I let it go entirely 'cause I didn't seem to need it. I did\ndo what teaching I had to do without it. Eventually I think it was Grace Root,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1380.0,1410.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of my friends, said to me, \"You really ought to get your Ph.D. degree and\nfinish that job before you die.\" So we made a joke of it and I said I would and\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1410.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wrote to the college then and at that time they were willing to accept a\nreprint. They told me that the requirement was changed now and it would do, this\nmemorandum, it's a copy thats struck off a mimeograph. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1440.0,1470.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It could be mimeographed,\nthey allowed that and so I thought I could undertake that. They said that it\ncouldn't cost much more than about $30 they thought and eventually I wrote them,\nexplained the situation Miss Thomas told me, Miss...somebody else was president\nthen and she told me that they had changed the .requirement, that the mimeograph\nwould be enough. 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So I\nwrote them and, as I say, joked a little about it and said I wanted to do it\nbefore I died, the thing had no value now, it was done in the old days of German\nscholarship when we counted syllables and it wasn't the way I would dream of\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1560.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teaching rhythm nowadays in poetry and nobody would ever even use it. In fact I\nthought they'd only use it could be put to was to show what Bryn Mawr gave a\nPh.D. for in 1897 and that, of course, amused them but I took it like that and\nthey laughed and I won my case. They wrote me that I shouldn't even have to have\nit mimeographed. 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So they very wisely let me send the original which I did, with old Miss\nThomas' ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1620.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"signature on it, accepted for the degree and so forth. I found it in the\nattic among the mice but fortunately only the outer box was eaten and the\ntypewritten copy itself was intact and of course I sent it down and presently\nthey sent me up the full degree. It was always the problem of how it should be\ndated, whether in 1897 or in 19 whatever that was, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1650.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"'52 or '5J, somewhere along\nin there, very recent.\n\nQ: You've told me that when you first came or perhaps shortly thereafter you\nwere interested in the Harding Farm on Deansboro Road.\n\nA: Yes, I tried to buy that from Mr. Root. At. least I asked him if he were\nwilling to sell it, just the house; we didn't want the grounds and we couldn't\nhave taken care of them but the house was beautiful, much the most beautiful\nhouse empty around here, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1680.0,1710.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"'twas at that time empty the Hardings had moved out. He\nsaid, as I told you, he didn't want Percy to leave here, he thought his\ninfluence was good up here on the campus and we had our fixed place now and he\nwould get us, see that the Trustees allowed us something to build a wing on with\nwhich would accommodate the music which was what we wanted chiefly and also some\nbedrooms upstairs, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1710.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as a family of four we were rather crowded in there and in\nthose days, if you'll believe it, $3,000 put on that wing. Of course that\nwouldn't touch it now , it would cost 10 or 15 easily to put on that wing. Of\ncourse there are several bedrooms, they're all divided into little rooms.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1740.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: I'm sure the f acuity has changed very much in its behavior and its\nrelationship among itself, what would you say about that?\n\nA: Well, I would say that it was always very friendly when we were in it. We\ndidn't seem to have any.difficulties with them. They get along very well with\neach other. 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He was a very competent President on lots of ways but\ncouldn't seem to get on with anybody.\n\nQ: Weren't some of Dr. Stryker's methods of decision rather peculiar?\n\nA: Yes, he said \"there's one ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1800.0,1830.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"person has to decide things on this hill, it\nhappens to be I\" and he decided everything and as I say, as I quoted, I remember\nhis saying or Percy reported it to me,\"that that's far too important to be\ndeci1ed by a committee, I'll have to decide that myself.\" That's the way he used\nhis faculty's advice. 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Masefield immediately after his experience in Gallipoli with that tragic\nface as a result; he was such a tender hearted fellow but we knew Masefleld, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1860.0,1890.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he\ncame later to visit us. We did make friends with him.\n\nQ: What. was Vachel Lindsay like?\n\nA: Well rather a violent person and noisy, a little bit noisy. To me not a very\nlikable, he'·wasn't the type \"that I'd like very much so perhaps I'm not quite\nfair to him but I didn't enjoy him much.\n\nQ: And Sandburg?\n\nA: Sandburg was a charming person and we grew to be great friends with him.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1890.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Among other things he was interested in gardening and he was a brother-in.law 6f\na man who. made the most wonderful delphiniums that've ever ever been made. I\nforget his name for the moment. It was Sandburg's sister who married· this man\nso that the_y were brothers-in-law and ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=1920.0,1950.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very fond of each other. Stiken, the\ngreat photographer Edward Stiken, I think, was the maker of delphiniums because\nhe had such wonderful ones. He got a name on t hat reputation from the\nhorticulturalists. There was a farm up the hill, its six acres only, we call it\nthe Ribbon because its 150 feet wide and runs back for six acres. 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We've owned that little place we call the Ribbon since because it\nruns back this long narrow way and he's cultivated his peonies there ever since.\nI think he's begun to mate them that if he's ever known generally and just at\nthe very moment he is among horticulturalists it will be as the maker of an\nentirely new race of peonies. He crossed things that have never been crossed\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=2010.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before and he kept the most meticulous notes as a scientist does and as Luther\nBurbank never did so his notes are extremely valuable to any breeder and he's\nreally known in the horticultural world and I think what little fame he has will\nrest on that. 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Then Dean Ristine was made Dean of the Faculty and there was somebody else\nmade Dean of the Students, not then I think Ristine was Dean for everybody for a\nwhile .\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=2160.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/transcript/43448/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q: Well I think that's about enough. Thank you very much for this.\n\nA: I think probably there's a great deal there which you won't want...\n\nQ: Oh, I doubt it.\n\nA: I gave it to you anyway.\n\nQ: This has been a pleasant time for me, thank you.\n\nA: We're awfully glad to have had you back her e, well any excuse even if i t\nwas this rather painful one. 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Among his best known works are the children's novels The Midnight Folk and The Box of Delights, and the poems The Everlasting Mercy and \"Sea-Fever\".\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/annotation_set/1041/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eThe Gallipoli campaign[a] was a military campaign in the First World War that took place on the Gallipoli peninsula (Gelibolu in modern Turkey), from 19 February 1915 to 9 January 1916. The Entente powers, Britain, France and the Russian Empire, sought to weaken the Ottoman Empire, one of the Central Powers, by taking control of the Ottoman straits. \u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=30.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/annotation_set/1041/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eRobert Lee Frost (March 26, 1874 – January 29, 1963) was an American poet. His work was initially published in England before it was published in the United States. Known for his realistic depictions of rural life and his command of American colloquial speech,[2] Frost frequently wrote about settings from rural life in New England in the early 20th century, using them to examine complex social and philosophical themes.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=60.0,90.0"}]},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Saunders, Louise Brownell - oral history, 1960 05-09-2023 16:08 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Saunders house","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=9.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This house is probably the most famous house on the Hill...","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=9.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Robert Frost","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"John Masefield","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}},{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cultural center","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Subjects"]}}],"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=9.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"President Stryker","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=310.0,442.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Speaking of the Presidents, undoubtedly the most interesting to us if only through legend is Stryker and of course you knew Stryker.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170#t=310.0,442.0"},{"id":"https://hamilton.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2271/collection_resources/90955/file/187170/index/53072/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"M. 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